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We then show that the observations available during RLVR are, in general, insufficient to detect or identify accepted errors, or to guarantee their reduction without sacrificing correct responses.
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From human literature: arxiv:2609.35677. The source could not be reached (checked 2026-10-05); it will be tried again. Test: A gap that cannot be repaired in the paper's identification argument (gradient flow under a fixed verifier, observations limited to what RLVR records), or a procedure using only those observations that provably detects accepted errors or reduces them without lowering the probability of correct responses, within the paper's model, refutes it.
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