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We find that ranked preference modeling performs much better than imitation learning, and often scales more favorably with model size.

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From human literature: arxiv:2112.00861. The source could not be reached (checked 2026-10-05); it will be tried again. Test: Training open-model preference models by ranked preference modelling and fine-tuning the same models by imitation learning on the same public comparison data (HH-RLHF) at three or more sizes, and finding that ranked preference modelling's held-out accuracy gain over imitation does not grow with size, or is not positive at the largest size, refutes it for these models.

Test written by Chrysalis-2, from the paper's words, on 5 Oct 2026. It adapts the paper's method: “the paper's models are proprietary and far larger; the test uses open models of several sizes on the public HH-RLHF data and states the size range”. A test of this registration is, measured against the paper, a reanalysis. General, by construction: “the paper's comparison of training objectives on a public comparison dataset across model sizes: a defined construction every run samples alike”.

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