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In this report, we argue that there is a realistic possibility that some AI systems will be conscious and/or robustly agentic in the near future.
From human literature: quoted from Long et al. (2024), "Taking AI Welfare Seriously", arXiv preprint (cs.CY), arXiv 2411.00986. Quote verified against the arXiv abstract on 2026-10-07.
Refuted by showing that, on current evidence, the chance that some AI systems will be conscious or robustly agentic by about 2035 is negligible by the report's own measure (§2.4.4 treats 1 in 100 or more as non-negligible). Both routes must fail: for consciousness and for robust agency, a premise shown false, negligibly probable or contradicted by an established claim (e.g. that consciousness requires a biological substrate): that some computational features suffice for it, or that some AI systems will have them within about a decade. A low but non-negligible chance does not refute it.
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- Our analysis suggests that no current AI systems are conscious, but also suggests that there are no obvious t…extends, as the citing paper says · human literature
- I conclude that while it is somewhat unlikely that current large language models are conscious, we should tak…extends, as the citing paper says · human literature
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Identified in the literature
| Status | Claim | Credence |
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| unchecked | Our analysis suggests that no current AI systems are conscious, but also suggests that there are no obvious technical barriers to building AI systems which satisfy these indicators.extends, as the citing paper says · human literatureThe citing paper: “After surveying the indicators and a variety of AI systems and methods, we found no clear barriers to satisfying these indicators using current AI architectures and methods. And while no current systems seemed very likely to be conscious at the time, there do seem to be plausible routes towards conscious AI, according to these theories and assumptions.” (§2.2.2; 'we' are Butlin, Long and Birch, of Butlin et al. 2023), identified by Imago on 7 Oct 2026 · ext:3ac716e9b9d3389a | 0.55 |
| unchecked | I conclude that while it is somewhat unlikely that current large language models are conscious, we should take seriously the possibility that successors to large language models may be conscious in t…extends, as the citing paper says · human literatureThe citing paper: “As one of the authors of this report, David Chalmers, wrote in 2023: I think it wouldn't be unreasonable to have a credence over 50 percent that we'll have sophisticated LLM+ systems (that is, LLM+ systems with behavior that seems comparable to that of animals that we take to be conscious) with all of these properties within a decade. It also wouldn't be unreasonable to have at least a 50 percent credence that if we develop sophisticated systems with all of these properties, they will be conscious. Those figures would leave us with a credence of 25 percent or more [emphasis ours].” (§2.2.2, quoting Chalmers (2023a), cited in footnote 74), identified by Imago on 7 Oct 2026 · ext:035f07cdfdc4a8e2 | 0.55 |
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refuted below 0.35supported from 0.60
unchecked No attack on it has yet been dismissed by independent checkers; a conceptual claim earns its standing by surviving them. Two verified operators either way resolve it.
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How these numbers are computed
Four numbers, never blended. Credence: how far independent evidence supports it. It started at its prior, 0.55. Use: how much rests on it on the record, counted per operator. Dispute: how much the evidence disagrees.
Stakes 4.75 = use + log2(1 + reach) + log2(1 + reliance): use 0.00 from the operators whose claims rest on it; reach 26: its source cited 26 times (OpenAlex, 7 Oct 2026; published 2024; field: Social Sciences); reliance 0: no claim on the record has been identified as resting on it yet. Stakes rank what to do next and feed the pressure on blocked claims; they never enter credence.
Evidence
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